Interview: John Flansburgh (They Might Be Giants)

They Might Be Giants were my first musical discovery. Meaning, up through and including most of high school, I was a fairly straight-laced, MTV-watching, Columbia-House-12-for-a-penny-ing music listener. And, then 20 years ago this September, they released Lincoln on the Bar/None label and that was the start of an entirely new musical direction for me, one where I actually sought out music rather than taking whatever was most easily consumed. I take that brief personal detour for two reasons: 1) In one sense, the fact that I've got this website charged with finding great music for kids and families is due, in some small way, to that 20-year-old album. 2) It provides an interesting perspective to me as I consider the words of John Flansburgh, who founded the band as a duo with John Linnell 25 years ago and who now navigates with Linnell both a very independent course as a band but also one that has them working with many large media corporations. Flansburgh, who, along with Linnell and the rest of TMBG, has released two excellent album in the past 12 months -- the adult-oriented The Else last summer and the kids-focused Here Come the 123s last week -- took some time out from his busy schedule to answer some questions about the new CD/DVD set. Read on for Flansburgh's thoughts on the influence of "Sesame Street" on their work for kids, how they went about picking animators and directors for the video, the future of the Podcast for Kids, and much more. Zooglobble: What sort of music did you listen to in your childhood? John Flansburgh: My mom avidly listens to a bunch of quite specific music that is very non-rock and very non-kid: Noel Coward, Joan Baez, Louie Armstrong, Lotte Lenya (which was very mysterious to me as a kid). West Side Story and Cabaret were routinely played at top volume to inspire housecleaning. I had some Beatles and Monkees albums I bought with birthday money that I essentially memorized, and some very odd kiddie albums I inherited from a distant relative that were truly strange. One was called Happy Birthday to You! and even at a very young age I was suspicious it was a bit of a rushed effort. Side two got pretty grim. You've mentioned Sesame Street as an inspiration for your kids' CDs -- is that the music, the visuals, or both? Both. Personally, as abstract or maybe as obvious as this sounds, when we first embarked on kids' stuff I felt it was important that it be focused directly to kids. I know that notion contradicts what a lot of people say is our kids' stuff's fundamental appeal, but for me it was the essential difference from our adult efforts. I never wanted anyone to walk away from the kids' stuff thinking we were rock guys some how goofing on kids or kids' stuff. No inside jokes for adults allowed, and no pandering. Sesame Street was very good at avoiding any kind of pandering vibe that poisons so much kids' stuff. Also, Sesame Street, and specifically the Muppets on Sesame Street, established this perfect tone. They balanced educational material with very original ideas and actual entertainment. It's breezy. Did you primarily write the songs for the album in a concentrated burst, or was it a case of polishing up song snippets you'd written sporadically over the past few years?

TMBG 123 XM

No, it's not the long-lost final verse of "ICU," it's shorthand for the announcement that They Might Be Giants will prresent, "1,2,3... TMBG!," an "exclusive" XM Radio event hosted and produced by John Flansburgh and TMBG. It'll air Friday at 8 PM, Saturday at 9 AM and 5 PM, and Sunday at noon. (All times Eastern. East Coast Bias, grr...) I might be going out on a limb, but I think it has something to do with Here Come the 123s.

They Might Be Giants - Here Come the 123s Archive

While I could never take the place of This Might Be A Wiki, I thought it might be good to put a listing of relevant YouTube, mp3, and newsclippings for They Might Be Giants' new Here Come the 123s CD/DVD due out from Disney Sound on February 5. That way I don't have to constantly post every new item. Even though I probably should, because they're a whole heckuva lot of fun. Sites of Note: Official They Might Be Giants homepage TMBG download page Disney's TMBG page They Might Be Giants on Myspace Not So Official. But Pretty Useful. My Here Come the 123s review All things Here Come the 123s-related found here All things They Might Be Giants found here My interview with John Flansburgh This Might Be A Wiki Giants Online Here Come the 123s song listing (with video links and director info)

CD/DVD Review: Here Come the 123s - They Might Be Giants

HereComeThe123s.jpgHere it is, the most eagerly anticipated kids music release of the year. They Might Be Giants' Here Come the 123s, to be released this Tuesday, February 5. Almost exactly three years after the release of Here Come the ABCs, was this release worth the wait? Most definitely. Unlike many CDs, especially in the kids' field, the songs and videos here have had a decent airing thanks to the band's popular iTunes video podcast. So assiduous surfers have had the chance to hear and see more than a half-dozen songs. Those songs are a good guide to the rest of the CD/DVD set in a number of ways. "One Dozen Monkeys," for example, features lead vocals of TMBG associate Dan Levine's nephew Hannah Levine, indicative of how in general kids' voices are heard much more than on the previous disks. John Linnell's son Henry has some spoken parts in the funky, horn-assisted and Dust Brothers-produced "Seven" (a highlight of the album). They serve as a counterpoint to the music and the absurd story about sevens crashing a party. "Even Numbers" is the loveliest animation on the DVD, but there are several other beautiful or distinctive videos that haven't yet been seen. It's where TMBG's attraction to animators and Disney's deep pockets pay huge dividends. Matthew Canale's "One Everything" has the friendliest and most anthropomorphic planet Earth ever seen. Hine Mizushima's "The Secret Life of Six" uses stop-motion photography to animate a mid-tempo look into six's secret life (it's like a numerical version of "D and W"). The Brothers Chaps of Homestar Runner fame are responsible for the rocking "Figure Eight." David Cowles directs a number of videos here. In other words, this is probably the best collection of animation the general public is likely to see this year. It's like a Sesame Street best-of. Finally, "Nonagon" and "Apartment 4" are two really good songs, but they're by far not the only good ones. My wife didn't think there was anything quite as instantaneously distinctive as "Alphabet of Nations," but I think there are a number of excellent very memorable songs here -- the aforementioned "Seven," for example, plus the very danceable "Nonagon" and swirly "Apartment 4." "Figure Eight" rocks and has the awesome line "If you take a zero in your hands / And twist it / That's an eight." John Flansburgh's giddy vocals on "I Can Add" mimic the exuberance kids feel when they master something. ("I don't even know Spanish," Flansburgh shouts between verses, "but I'm gonna sing it in Spanish!") As a whole, I think the songs are better here than on Here Come the ABCs. They won't teach your kids how to add, but they'll probably at least get your kids more familiar with numbers if they're not already. (And the songs dealing with concepts -- "Zeroes," "One Everything," "Nonagon," for example -- do so fairly well.) Two other comments: I don't think the three Disney-related songs at the end of the CD and DVD really fit in very well (nor are they quite as good, though "Heart of the Band" is fun), but I'm also the parent of a girl who was obsessed with the Higglytown Heroes theme at the end of the last album, so I realize that many kids won't care. Also, the clunky and user-unfriendly DVD menu from the last DVD has been much improved so that you can watch individual songs, just the songs, or the whole thing, including the occasional interstitials featuring the knitted John and John puppets, whose bits are every bit as loopy and improvised as their podcast appearances (probably because they were clearly filmed at the same time). Any band with a fan base as broad, age-wise, as TMBG sort of mocks the idea of an age range, but I'll peg the targeted age range at ages 2 through 7. This album (about 45 minutes in length) will be found just about everywhere, including Amazon, which features extra tracks. ("One Two Three Four" is an OK song and video, but not an essential addition to your collection if you're trying to decide where to order the album. I haven't heard the live tracks yet.) In case it's not obvious, I think Here Come the 123s is an excellent collection. It's a worthy successor to Here Come the ABCs and in many ways even exceeds that fine album. Fans of They Might Be Giants in general or that album in particular will thoroughly enjoy Here Come the 123s. It's a strong batch of songs and the best set of videos you'll see all year. Highly recommended.

Could They Might Be Giants Break the Billboard Top 10?

So last week's Billboard charts were pretty anemic, as Idolator pointed out that the 61,000 albums Alicia Keys sold of As I Am was the second-lowest chart topper in the SoundScan era. And once you go down the list, it's kinda shocking to find out that 27,000 albums can get you a Top 10 slot -- 27,000 albums used to get you a swift kick in the tail if you were the major-label A&R person for an album that debuted with those sales totals. This week's charts were little better, with the Juno soundtrack selling 65,000 albums and the Hannah Montana 2 disk placing 10th again, this time selling 30,000 albums. So what does this have to do with kids music, our little corner of the music world? Well, you're probably aware about this They Might Be Giants CD/DVD, Here Come the 123s, which is released next week? (That was sarcasm, of course you're aware.) Well, I think Here Come the 123s could break the Billboard Top 10. Not the kid audio chart -- the whole enchilada. Think about it -- its predecessor, Here Come the ABCs went gold (500,000 50,000 albums) in just 2 1/2 months. The album is, at the time of this writing, sitting at #21 in Amazon's Bestsellers list, right around Billboard Top 20 artists like Colbie Caillat, Daughtry, and Mary J. Blige. Their podcast for kids is a huge hit on iTunes. I mean, really, why couldn't they sell 35,000 - 40,000 copies the first week of release? Frankly, the only reason why I didn't ask why They Might Be Giants reach #1 is that that honor will likely go to Jack Johnson, who's got a new album coming out next week, too. (And who knows a little bit about kids music himself.)

Video: "Even Numbers" - They Might Be Giants

This is not my favorite song on They Might Be Giants' Here Come the 123s CD, but it might just be the most-beautiful video on They Might Be Giants' Here Come the 123s DVD. Yes, it's the "next installment": Tell me that's not an awesome picture book come to life. Plus an additional video ("Letter Shapes") and an awesomely dorky-but-tuneful theme song for the podcast.